A very astute observation, Ms. Mithra, thank you. While I believe there may be a correlation, I do believe the House and the Watcher are separate entities, perhaps in conflict over the possession of us guests.
The Watcher's influence seems limited to observation, thus far, though it'd be foolish to disregard the fact that the House watches too. As does the Library.
With that said, I feel it's time to share my communications prior to being gifted the book above. When I first arrived, I asked for a way to help, and the Library gave me homework, of sorts. I've kept it quiet until now, assuming it was something meant to placate me, but now I'm not so sure.
It needed to be asked. There are multiple entities involving themselves in our lives, it seems. Beyond just the House, the Library ( author of your book? ) and the Watcher.
Could it not be said that the Watcher's influence is beyond observation? β They have now taken an active interest in inviting and influencing guests to act against the House, as in the case of Natalie. β Unless the Balfours and the Shepherd were guests once, it suggests a graduation of scope. β The Watcher will likely do so in the future, perhaps even beginning with those chosen by the Shepherd? It reminds me of war between higher beings.
[are you kidding he hasn't had this much fun since kobymas.]
Of course, I completely agree. We don't know nearly enough about the situation, we have to consider every angle.
Hmmm, I think you're absolutely right, actually, yes! - Now I was thinking more in terms of the Watcher not launching any sort of direct assault on us -- which is confirmed by it's use of proxies. The Shepherd was how it did most of it's influencing, because we'd be inclined to trust someone who appeared similar to us. - Perhaps the Balfours are to the House what the Shepherd was to the Watcher? - But you're absolutely right, we are by no means safe from the Watcher here, especially with the map explicitly stating the barrier keeping it away has been breached. "You will be seen again". - At any rate, caution would be wise when engaging with anything, even if it's ostensibly from the house. Thank you, Ms. Mithra.
Taken in combination with Gwen's question below, it seems it would behoove us to become friendlier with the Balfours, or to find someone who might already have their ear.
If he is the only one we can count on, so be it, but for the sake of Gwen and Mithra, who were not present during the games, I would stress that his instinct seems to be toward chaos, not toward the more collective good. I would not trust him with more information than is absolutely necessary.
You're being very tactful, Mr. Silco. I care about him very much, but I also know exactly how Set is. How his mind works. I would cosign that warning, Ms. Mithra and Ms. Gwen. His priorities are not necessarily in keeping with ours.
That said, if I make a good enough case, I could perhaps see if he has any insight he'd be willing to share.
[it sticks, in the mechanism inside koby that constantly compares, contrasts, attempts to determine where he stands, what he's worth, and always turns up not enough. he's quiet for a moment.]
Thank you, Jinx. I'll be careful. I won't offer anything discussed here. If he's unwilling to give information without a trade, we'll have to find other routes.
[there's a quick, sharp stab of -- protectiveness, perhaps? still, koby doesn't lay out the vulnerabilities he's seen, the good things, the noble ones -- he has a feeling set would resent it, being piecemeal-cut into his most appealing parts to try and win over strangers.
so, as usual, he leans towards the facts, the logic:]
And foreigners. And the desert and storms, if we're counting.
But chaos and strangers in a strange land -- based on the history of our time here at Saltburnt, it's actually quite logical.
We've had several deities present, depending on how much credence you give their stories. The House may have affection for us, but it hardly makes life easy as a result.
When you put it that way, it does make perfect sense.
Set used to be a guardian deity, long before he was denounced by the rise of the Osirian cult. Even in my age, he remains a complex and fascinating deity nobody knows much about. I would love the opportunity to speak with him.
[ rip i will never do this mithra ]
That being said, I always give credence to those who claim themselves deities. The Entities of the Household will soon find place upon my altars, until they have spoken otherwise of their status?
[something stills, then, in his chest, that flaring need to puff up and stand up and defend. at least she understands the complexity of it, the way not even the world that worshipped set can truly agree on his aspects. what hope do individuals, living and working and existing alongside him, really have?]
He did, yes. Complex is a very good word to use to describe him. [PIVOTING:] Have you read much of deities, then, Ms. Mithra? My world is quite different in that matter, so I've dabbled a bit in research.
The Entities. Do you mean the Balfours and Giles? Or the more unseen residents, such as the Library? Or both?
In a sense. Religious studies were part of my educational curriculum.
And I do mean the Library, and the Watcher. As well as the Mesial and the Sibling. At this time, I consider them a class unto themselves. Our hosts, the Balfours... sometimes I wonder if they are guardians themselves. Ones who have tired of their roles, and we are here to determine who among us might replace them. Or break their hold on reality.
[ A pause. ]
Apologies. Disregard that as idle fancy. I wear the mantle of an author, and such a nature oft clashes with my duties as a researcher.
Oh, I see. At a university, perhaps? It's my understanding that's a topic of study, there. I never attended formal education myself, so I'm not familiar.
No, no, that's an ingenious theory, Mithra! [he's eager enough that he forgets the polite title, wow.] The situation is complex and unpredictable enough that even the most passing theory must be noted and investigated!
[this is the house where he turns into a seal, please, in comparison her theory's hardly out-there.]
Of course, you're right. I do know previous attempts to coerce or control the Shepherd -- the Watcher's proxy -- caused severe suffering to those attempting, so Please be very careful.
That is very reassuring, yes. Would you be open to explaining how you complete this observation?
I have a similar ability, but I find it doesn't work very well, with you, even passively. I wonder if there might be a correlation. Not to entirely derail things, of course.
I don't imagine it's your fault, Ms. Mithra. It happens with several people here, off and on. It could also simply be my inexperience manifesting. I've only had these abilities for a little over a year.
I'll ask if I can't get ahold of you, or if something happens and I want to make sure you're safe. And please, feel free to do likewise :)
@koby
A very astute observation, Ms. Mithra, thank you. While I believe there may be a correlation, I do believe the House and the Watcher are separate entities, perhaps in conflict over the possession of us guests.
The Watcher's influence seems limited to observation, thus far, though it'd be foolish to disregard the fact that the House watches too. As does the Library.
With that said, I feel it's time to share my communications prior to being gifted the book above. When I first arrived, I asked for a way to help, and the Library gave me homework, of sorts. I've kept it quiet until now, assuming it was something meant to placate me, but now I'm not so sure.
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It needed to be asked. There are multiple entities involving themselves in our lives, it seems. Beyond just the House, the Library ( author of your book? ) and the Watcher.
Could it not be said that the Watcher's influence is beyond observation?
β They have now taken an active interest in inviting and influencing guests to act against the House, as in the case of Natalie.
β Unless the Balfours and the Shepherd were guests once, it suggests a graduation of scope.
β The Watcher will likely do so in the future, perhaps even beginning with those chosen by the Shepherd? It reminds me of war between higher beings.
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Of course, I completely agree. We don't know nearly enough about the situation, we have to consider every angle.
Hmmm, I think you're absolutely right, actually, yes!
- Now I was thinking more in terms of the Watcher not launching any sort of direct assault on us -- which is confirmed by it's use of proxies. The Shepherd was how it did most of it's influencing, because we'd be inclined to trust someone who appeared similar to us.
- Perhaps the Balfours are to the House what the Shepherd was to the Watcher?
- But you're absolutely right, we are by no means safe from the Watcher here, especially with the map explicitly stating the barrier keeping it away has been breached. "You will be seen again".
- At any rate, caution would be wise when engaging with anything, even if it's ostensibly from the house. Thank you, Ms. Mithra.
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I may know someone.
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Who?
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Set's remained on good terms with them. Somehow.
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If he is the only one we can count on, so be it, but for the sake of Gwen and Mithra, who were not present during the games, I would stress that his instinct seems to be toward chaos, not toward the more collective good. I would not trust him with more information than is absolutely necessary.
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You're being very tactful, Mr. Silco. I care about him very much, but I also know exactly how Set is. How his mind works. I would cosign that warning, Ms. Mithra and Ms. Gwen. His priorities are not necessarily in keeping with ours.
That said, if I make a good enough case, I could perhaps see if he has any insight he'd be willing to share.
NOT HERE.
@GETJINXED
he doesnβt care about anyone but himself
[ harsh, maybe, but what koby needs to hear. he doesnβt care about you. if he did, koby might not have been dead by his boy-toyβs hand. ]
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Thank you, Jinx. I'll be careful.
I won't offer anything discussed here. If he's unwilling to give information without a trade, we'll have to find other routes.
@MNANTONESCU
As in Sutekh, the Egyptian god of chaos and violence and evil? Why would the House call upon someone like that to be among us?
[ fuck that guy says pax ]
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so, as usual, he leans towards the facts, the logic:]
And foreigners. And the desert and storms, if we're counting.
But chaos and strangers in a strange land -- based on the history of our time here at Saltburnt, it's actually quite logical.
We've had several deities present, depending on how much credence you give their stories. The House may have affection for us, but it hardly makes life easy as a result.
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Set used to be a guardian deity, long before he was denounced by the rise of the Osirian cult. Even in my age, he remains a complex and fascinating deity nobody knows much about. I would love the opportunity to speak with him.
[ rip i will never do this mithra ]
That being said, I always give credence to those who claim themselves deities. The Entities of the Household will soon find place upon my altars, until they have spoken otherwise of their status?
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He did, yes. Complex is a very good word to use to describe him. [PIVOTING:] Have you read much of deities, then, Ms. Mithra?
My world is quite different in that matter, so I've dabbled a bit in research.
The Entities. Do you mean the Balfours and Giles? Or the more unseen residents, such as the Library? Or both?
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And I do mean the Library, and the Watcher. As well as the Mesial and the Sibling. At this time, I consider them a class unto themselves. Our hosts, the Balfours... sometimes I wonder if they are guardians themselves. Ones who have tired of their roles, and we are here to determine who among us might replace them. Or break their hold on reality.
[ A pause. ]
Apologies. Disregard that as idle fancy. I wear the mantle of an author, and such a nature oft clashes with my duties as a researcher.
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At a university, perhaps? It's my understanding that's a topic of study, there.
I never attended formal education myself, so I'm not familiar.
No, no, that's an ingenious theory, Mithra! [he's eager enough that he forgets the polite title, wow.] The situation is complex and unpredictable enough that even the most passing theory must be noted and investigated!
[this is the house where he turns into a seal, please, in comparison her theory's hardly out-there.]
@GETJINXED
mainly cause of the chaos and violence and evil
same as the whole house
only thing it likes more than assholes is rich people π€
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Chaos is a beautiful, natural state of being. The same as Order.
Rich people, however, are dastardly things. Nothing good ever came from anyone who was possessed of money and ego.
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I do not know if it be possible, but even a failed attempt might net us something of value.
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Is it safe for you to do that?
[not "can you", but "could it hurt you".]
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We can only endeavor to be as prepared as possible.
[ read: please let me help. ]
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Of course, you're right. I do know previous attempts to coerce or control the Shepherd -- the Watcher's proxy -- caused severe suffering to those attempting, so
Please be very careful.
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I believe it best to only observe, if it is at all possible.
[ it might not be
at least suffering does a soul like hers good. all the better, that she is the one who could seek this. ]
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Would you be open to explaining how you complete this observation?
I have a similar ability, but I find it doesn't work very well, with you, even passively. I wonder if there might be a correlation.
Not to entirely derail things, of course.
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What do you mean your ability doesn't work very well with me?
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I have extrasensory perception abilities. I can usually find people and sense their aura or powers or emotions.
I can't, with you. It's like my senses just sort of blip past you, without registering anything.
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[ ( Dearest Mithra, you are different than others. Neither less, nor more, only other than. Yours, N. Roarke. ) ]
If it be helpful, you may always ask of me where I am. Or how I am feeling. I would say were you to ask, sir.
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It happens with several people here, off and on.
It could also simply be my inexperience manifesting. I've only had these abilities for a little over a year.
I'll ask if I can't get ahold of you, or if something happens and I want to make sure you're safe.
And please, feel free to do likewise :)